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CITY OF WHEAT RIDGE PLANNING COMMISSION
Minutes of Meeting
May 17,2001
1. CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chair McNAMEE at 7:30 p.m., May 17, 2001, in the City
Council Chambers of the Municipal Building, 7500 West 29th Avenue, Wheat Ridge,
Colorado.
2.
ROLL CALL
Commission Members Present:
Jerry Collins
Paulette Cooper
Marian McNamee
Nancy Snow
Janice Thompson
Paula Weisz
Commission Members Absent:
Mark Miller
Staff Members Present:
Alan White, Planning Director
Meredith Reckert, Sr. Plarmer
Travis Crane, Plarmer
Bob Goebel, Public Works Director
Mike Garcia, Development Review Engineer
Greg Knudson, City Engineer
Steve Nguyen, Traffic Engineer
Ann Lazzeri, Secretary
3. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The following is the official set of PI arming Commission minutes for the public hearing of May 17,
2001. A set of these minutes is retained both in the office of the City Clerk and in the Department of
Planning and Development of the City of Wheat Ridge.
4. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA
It was moved by Commissioner SNOW and seconded by Commissioner COOPER to
approve the agenda as presented. The motion passed 6-0 with Commissioner MILLER
absent.
5. APPROVE MINUTES
It was moved by Commissioner COLLI NS and seconded by Commissioner SNOW to
approve the minutes of May 3, 2001 as presented. The motion passed 6-0 with
Commissioner MILLER absent.
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6. PUBLIC FORUM
There was no one to appear before the Commission
7. PUBLIC HEARING
A. Case No. WS-OO-Ol: (continued from May 3, 2001) - An application submitted by
Applewood Building Company, Inc. for approval of a ten-lot major subdivision
(preliminary and final subdivision plat) for property zoned Residential-One and located
at 9737 West 32nd Avenue.
Prior to her presentation, Ms. Reckert distributed copies of a revised grading plan and profile
sheet as well as copies of the plat that contained minor revisions for the Commission's review.
She reviewed the staff report and presented slides and overheads of the application. She noted
three additional conditions of approval that were not included in the staff report: (I) that the
applicant continue working with staff on other minor modifications to homeowner association
covenants; (2) that during the construction process, top of foundation certifications be provided
by the engineer of record to verifY consistency with the elevations shown on the drainage
report; and (3) that slopes and volumes in Tract A be modified to accommodate the sanitary
sewer easement and access way. All pertinent documents were entered into the record and
accepted by Chair McNamee. Commission members were advised that they had jurisdiction to
hear the case. Staff recommended approval of the application with conditions as outlined in the
staff report.
In response to a question from Commissioner SNOW, Commissioner WEISZ stated that she
has read all the minutes from the previous hearings on this case.
Commissioner THOMPSON asked if the homeowners association would be liable for any
flooding that would occur below the development due to lack of maintenance (such as mowing
grass in the swale areas). Mike Garcia replied that the homeowners association would be
responsible.
Commissioner COOPER asked if the revisions to the fencing would take care ofthe concern
about water flow through the swales. Ms. Reckert replied that they would. Bob Goebel stated
that, while solid fencing would not be allowed, there are fence designs that allow water to flow
through.
In response to a question from Commissioner COLLINS, Bob Goebel said the drainage plan
showed that properties would be protected during a 100-year storm and water would not
overtop the 6" curb.
David Schneider
3331 Oak Street, Wheat Ridge
Chair McNAMEE reminded Mr. Schneider that he was still under oath from a previous
hearing. Mr. Schneider stated he had complied with all staff recommendations thus far and
would also comply with the conditions suggested at this meeting. He stated that he would be
agreeable to address fencing and maintenance of the swales (mowing grass) in the homeowner
covenants.
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Dennis Beamis
12191 RaIson Road, #200, Arvada
Chair McNAMEE reminded Mr. Beamis that he was still under oath from a previous hearing.
He stated that the project is designed to meet a 100-year storm.
In response to a question from Commissioner COLLINS regarding the estimated life of the
detention pond, Mr. Beamis stated it would last as long as the homes--at least a hundred years,
although some components of the release structure may have to be replaced over time.
Commissioner THOMPSON asked if covenants would require silt and sediment to be removed
from the pond. Mr. Beamis replied that the pond would have to be cleaned periodically to
ensure that the structure works properly.
Dan Schneider
3866 Union St.
Mr. Schneider, geotechnical engineer of record, was sworn in by Chair McNAMEE. In
response to a question from Commissioner THOMPSON regarding the feasibility of a lined
detention pond, he stated that liners deteriorate over time; there could be water standing in a
lined pond for a long period of time; grass could grow in an unlined pond for a more pleasing
appearance; and an unlined pond would be more efficient in terms of release of water and
maintenance. He spoke with representatives of the Rocky Mountain Ditch who informed him
that the ditch runs 123 days a season at 25 c.f.s. and it is estimated they lose 10-25% of water
through seepage. He stated that during a 100-year storm, water from the development's pond
would only cause the ground water table to rise \4". He also stated that he spoke with Chuck
Svoboda who told him that he has lived in his house (located next to the ditch that leaks a large
amount of water) for 8-9 years and has experienced no water in his basement. He stated that
capturing all of the water that would normally run into the ditch and releasing it into a storm
sewer on Kipling would actually improve the water situation in the area.
In response to Commissioner COLLINS' concern about runoff during construction, Mr.
Schneider stated that an erosion plan, reviewed by city staff, would be in place.
Chair McNAMEE asked to hear from members of the public.
Don Peterson
9945 West 34th Drive
Mr. Peterson was sworn in by Chair McNAMEE. He stated the biggest concern brought up at
the neighborhood meeting was that when Consolidated Mutual installed water lines, it changed
the drainage and created a wetlands area causing water in basements that had never been there
before. He was in favor of placing the storm drain along the south side of Rocky Mountain
Ditch, flowing out to Kipling. He believed this alternative would be less expensive to install
because the contractor wouldn't have to deal with all of the utility lines. He also expressed
concern about backfill should the storm drain go down 34th He stated that most of the
neighbors do get water in their basements with the exception of Chuck Svoboda. He also
suggested another option would be run the storm drain to the ditch behind Wheat Ridge High
School to the corner of 35th where there is also a storm drain.
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John Miks
9855 West 34th Drive
Mr. Miks was sworn in by Chair McNAMEE. He stated that he has lived in his house since
1968 and is located across the street from the proposed storm drain. He stated that there were
no water problems in the neighborhood prior to the installation of Consolidated Mutual's water
line and now there is a wetlands in the area. He stated that his neighbor's tractor got stuck in
the wetlands. He testified that shale is located five feet beneath the surface and is covered with
bentonite. He expressed concern that the additional development would worsen drainage in his
area. He asked that conditions be placed on the storm drain such as filling with river rock and
pea gravel with a French drain 20-30 feet from Kipling and then have a "Y" drain to the storm
drain on Kipling. He also expressed concern about disturbing utilities and increasing water
problems on the north side of the street. He provided drawings of his proposed plan to the
Commission and to staff.
In response to a question from Commissioner THOMPSON, Mr. Miks stated that his water
problems are present year-around.
(Commissioner McNAMEE declared a brief recess at 8:45 p.m. in order for Commissioners
and staff to review the plan submitted by Mr. Miks. The meeting was reconvened at 9:00 p.m.)
Chuck Svoboda
9860 West 34th Drive
Mr. Svoboda was sworn in by Chair McNAMEE. He stated that there is a 50-foot vertical drop
from the proposed detention pond to his house and expressed concern about the large amount of
water being detained above his and his neighbors' homes. He stated that he has lived in his
house for nine years and has not experienced water in his basement. He was in favor of lining
the detention pond stating that it is possible to line ponds with geotextile fabrics that can be
sodded over. He believed that, even if the liner failed in twenty years, it would be an
improvement over the present situation. He stated that he would like to see a better solution
than the 3-inch diameter inlet for the pond and would also like to see a soils report.
In answer to a question from Commissioner SNOW, Bob Goebel stated that the state requires a
2-inch minimum size for inlets to detention ponds.
Commissioner COOPER asked if Mr. Svoboda was concerned about mosquitoes as a result of
ponding water. Mr. Svoboda replied that there is already water in the ditch and he would rather
live with mosquitoes than water problems with his house.
Don Peterson returned to the podium. He stated that since the pond is designed to empty
within two days there shouldn't be a problem with standing water. He also requested that the
cash in lieu of park land dedication be kept in the district and used toward development of the
park on 38th and Kipling.
Deanna Gammon
3305 Independence
Ms. Gammon was sworn in by Chair McNAMEE. She expressed concern that the swale
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between her house and the development would cause increased water problems for her. She
wondered what recourse she would have if water damage from the development occurs to her
property. Bob Goebel replied that it would probably be a civil matter.
Paul Hargrave
3224 Jellison Street
Mr. Hargrave was sworn in by Chair McNAMEE. He expressed concern about dust during
construction as well as maintenance of the swale since covenants are difficult to enforce. He
also expressed concern about increased traffic in the neighborhood as a result of the
development.
Paula Hargrave
3224 Jellison Street
Mrs. Hargrave was sworn in by Chair McNAMEE. She stated that the property in back of her
home is already a wetlands area and expressed concern that the development would cause
further water problems for the neighborhood. She asked the Commission to consider the needs
of the present homeowners in the area when considering this development.
Bob Eisinger
3395 Independence Ct.
Chair McNAMEE reminded Mr. Eisinger that he was sworn in from the previous hearing. He
opposed a lined pond because standing water would present safety problems to children and
stagnant water would cause insect and stench problems. He stated that he observed the
detention pond on Jellison Street during the last storm when two inches of rain was received in
four days, and there was no standing water in that unlined pond.
Tony Kerstiens
9880 West 35th Avenue
Mr. Kerstiens was sworn in by Chair McNAMEE. He stated that he bought his house two
years ago and went to considerable expense to correct damage caused by water. He expressed
concern that the development would cause further problems for his property. He also
expressed concern that the drainage swale would be difficult to maintain. He asked the
Commission to hold the citizens' trust and give precedence to existing properties over new
development.
John Anthony
3244 Jellison Street
Mr. Anthony was sworn in by Chair McNAMEE. He proposed an alternate plan to route the
drainage on the south side of ditch. He believed that, because much of the ditch is located on
easements granted by homeowners, there would probably be resistance to using this easement
for storm drainage.
David Schneider returned to the podium. He stated that he has explored every avenue for
storm drainage for this development and that draining water to the corner of 35th behind Wheat
Ridge High School would not work. He stated that city staff agreed his proposed plan is the
best one for homeowners and the city. He also commented that he has mowed weeds in the
area several times and encountered no problems with water. He further stated that he contacted
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all of the homeowners north and northeast of the development and the only one who expressed
opposition was Mr. Svoboda.
Mr. Beamis returned to the podium. He addressed concerns expressed by Dearma Gammon
and explained that the swales are designed to be six feet wide and six inches deep and would
catch water to prevent it from draining into the houses. The water would drain away from the
Gammon's property.
Commissioner COLLINS asked how they would get rid of water without a French drain. Mr.
Beamis replied that the city's standard trench design should be adequate.
Dan Schneider returned to podium and stated that his drainage plan is designed to catch all the
water from the development and release it through a structure designed to city standards and
that a lined pond would present liability and maintenance issues. He stated that none of the
alternatives presented by the neighbors would work. He also stated that strict quality control
would be in place during construction. He advised that, should present homeowners experience
water problems, they could look to the developer for recourse.
Commissioner SNOW asked if the storm sewer would be installed before any grading is done.
Mr. Schneider stated that he would abide by staff s direction.
Commissioner THOMPSON asked ifthe 3-inch inlet was sufficient. Mike Garcia replied that
it would release at the historical rate into the CDOT storm sewer in Kipling Street.
Commissioner THOMPSON asked staffs opinion about the liner, with or without grass. Greg
Knudson stated that liners are typically installed in retention ponds where water is intended to
stay and that liners are not typically installed in detention ponds.
In response to a question from Commissioner THOMPSON regarding the drainage plan, Bob
Goebel replied that the proposed system meets city requirements and could improve the
drainage for the entire area.
In response to a question from Commissioner SNOW, Mr. Goebel stated his opinion that, if the
Rocky Mountain Ditch is ever abandoned, it should have no effect on the development.
Commissioner COLLINS asked Mr. Goebel's opinion on the trench design submitted by the
citizens. Mr. Goebel replied, that while he has not had time to thoroughly review it, he had
concerns because of bentonite in the area.
It was moved by Commissioner SNOW and seconded by Commissioner COLLINS that
the request for approval of a ten-lot preliminary subdivision plat for Residential-One
zoned property located at 9737 West 32nd Avenue be recommended for APPROVAL for
the following reasons:
1. All minimum requirements ofthe R-l zone district standards have been met.
2. All minimum requirements of the subdivision regulations have been met.
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With the following condition:
1. That the plat document be amended to show the storm sewer line across lot 7.
The motion passed 6-0 with Commissioner MILLER absent.
It was moved by Commissioner SNOW and seconded by Commissioner COLLINS that
the request for approval of a ten-lot final subdivision plat for Residential-One zoned
property located at 9737 West 32nd Avenue be recommended for APPROVAL for the
following reasons:
1. All minimum requirements of the R-l zone district standards have been met.
2. All minimum requirements of the subdivision regulations have been met.
With the following conditions:
1. A note shall be added to the plat to indicate that perimeter fencing on individual
lots cannot be solid fencing and cannot block drainage conveyance swales.
2. A note shall be added to the final plat that the building envelopes shown on the
drainage report must be adhered to and those envelopes must be shown on the plat
itself.
3. The homeowners association covenants must be revised to indicate that perimeter
fencing on individual lots cannot be solid fencing and cannot block drainage
conveyance swales.
4. The homeowners association covenants shall be revised to limit construction to the
building envelopes shown on the drainage report and on the final plat.
5. The applicant shall continue working with staff on other minor modifications to
the homeowner association covenants and the covenants shall be approved by the
city attorney.
6. During the construction process, top of foundation certification shall be provided
by the engineer of record to verify consistency with the elevations shown on the
drainage report.
7. Slopes and volumes in Tract A shall be modified to accommodate the sanitary
sewer easement and access way.
8. The homeowners association covenants shall be reviewed and amended, if
necessary, to make it clear that responsibility for maintenance of all drainage
structures and detention pond are the financial responsibility of the homeowners
association.
The motion passed 6-0 with Commissioner MILLER absent.
B. Case No. WZ-OO-13: An application submitted by First Industrial, LP, for approval of an
amendment to Pacifica Development Properties II, LLC, PlD Final Development Plan with
a setback variance to allow an additional freestanding sign with a 7-foot setback. The
property is zoned PlD and located at 9500 West 49th Avenue.
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This case was presented by Travis Crane. He reviewed the staff report and presented slides and
overheads of the application. All pertinent documents were entered into the record and
accepted by Chair McNamee. He advised the Commission that there was jurisdiction to hear
the case. He reviewed the criteria involved in evaluation of a variance request. Staff
recommended approval of the applications with conditions as outlined in the staff report.
In answer to a question from Commissioner SNOW, Mr. Crane stated that the size of the
requested sign would leave approximately 3.5 feet for freestanding sign space in the
development.
Tim Rogers
2064 Creighton Drive, Golden
Mr. Rogers, leasing and marketing manager for First Industrial Realty, was sworn in by Chair
McNAMEE. He stated that he was involved in the original PID for this project. He would like
to have the sign available to the landlord to enhance leasing opportunities to attract major and
significant tenants. Signage along 1-70 is extremely important. He was not comfortable with
having a lot of signs on the fronts of the buildings. He clarified that Toshiba is not yet a tenant
in this building. Toshiba was seriously considering this location in November and the sign
played a great part in their interest. Bolle's lease is still in effect for five more years and they
are presently subleasing one of the two buildings which they previously occupied. It was first
thought that the tenant's needs could be accommodated through the use of a monument sign;
however, the monument sign is not presently visible from 1-70.
There was discussion about the conditions placed on the Bolle sign which was to be removed if
Bolle left the development. Travis Crane explained that Bolle was requested by the city to
remove the sign last November. Since then, there was an agreement to cover up the letters and
the subject amendment was filed.
In answer to a question from Commissioner SNOW, Mr. Rogers stated that the two additional
panels would accommodate two smaller tenants and would be visible from 1-70. The largest
panel would be reserved for the major tenant of the development.
It was moved by Commissioner THOMPSON and seconded by Commissioner SNOW
that Case No. WZ-OO-13, a request for approval of an amendment to the Final
Development Plan with a setback variance to allow an additional freestanding sign, for
property located at 9500 West 49th Avenue, be APPROVED for the following reasons:
1. The property has decreased highway visibility due to the location and height of the
sound wall and lowered elevations.
2. The sign could bring a renewed economic interest to the area.
3. The second sign would not alter the character of the area.
4. The sign would not be detrimental to the public welfare nor impair the adequate
supply oflight and air.
5. The sign would accommodate signage for two additional businesses.
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With the following condition:
1. The total square footage for the proposed sign shall not exceed 189 square feet.
In response to a question from Commissioner COLLINS, Alan White stated that the sign would
be lighted.
Commissioner THOMPSON stated that she would vote in favor ofthe motion because the sign
should attract desirable tenants to Wheat Ridge.
Chair McNAMEE asked for clarification as to whether a super-majority vote would be required
on this matter. Alan White stated that it would not, since it is an amendment to a final
development plan.
Commissioner COLLINS indicated he would vote against the motion because the condition
which required removal of the sign if Bolle was no longer located on the premises was not
adhered to.
The motion passed 5-1 with Commissioner COLLINS voting no and Commissioner
MILLER absent.
Case No. ZOA-OI-0l: An ordinance amending Article II of Chapter 26 of the Wheat Ridge
Code of Laws concerning the addition of a Conservation Zoning District.
This case was presented by Alan White. He reviewed the staff report and asked for
Commission's discussion which included:
. Should nesting boxes be included in natural habitat areas under primary uses.
. Should bridges be included along with equestrian/pedestrian trails under accessory uses.
. Should bike racks be included under accessory uses.
. Should pavilions be included with benches and picnic tables.
. Criteria should be developed for determining the amount of parking spaces.
Commissioner THOMPSON made a request that the city address a noxious weed ordinance at
some time in the future.
It was moved by Commissioner SNOW and seconded by Commissioner THOMPSON
that this matter be continued to the meeting on June 7, 2001, in order for staff to clarify
the difference between what belongs in the public facilities district, what belongs in the
conservation district, and whether all kinds of activities and structures have been covered
that would be properly included in a conservation district; and further that the section on
weeds not exempt noxious weeds as defined in state statutes. The motion passed 6-0 with
Commissioner MILLER absent.
8. OLD BUSINESS
There was no old business to come before the Commission.
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9. NEW BUSINESS
Residential Estate District - Commissioner SNOW expressed disappointment that the
conservation district ordinance was drafted before the residential estate district ordinance and
requested that the residential estate district ordinance be drafted in the near future.
10. COMMISSION REPORTS
There were no commission reports.
11. COMMITTEE AND DEPARTMENT REPORTS
Economic Development Committee - Chair McNAMEE requested that Commission
members review the Economic Development Committee minutes.
12. ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Commissioner SNOW and seconded by Commissioner COLLINS to
adjourn the meeting at 10:55 p.m. The motion passed unanimously.
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'MARIAN McNAMEE, Chair
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