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CITY OF WHEAT RIDGE PLANNING COMMISSION
Minutes .of Meeting
N.ovember 16, 2000
1. CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chair MacDOUGALL at 7:35 p.m., November 16,2000, in
the City Council Chambers of the Municipal Building, 7500 West 29th Avenue, Wheat Ridge,
Colorado.
2. ROLL CALL
Commission Members Present:
Jerry Collins
Paulette Cooper
Dick Doyle
Dean Gokey
Don MacDougall
Marian McNamee
Nancy Snow
Janice Thompson
Staff Members Present:
Alan White, Planning Director
Gerald Dabl, City Attorney
Meredith Reckert, Sr. Planner
Mike Garcia, Development Review Engineer
Ann Lazzeri, Secretary
3. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The following is the official set of Planning Commission minutes for the public hearing of November
16, 2000. A set ofthese minutes is retained both in the office of the City Clerk and in the Department
of Planning and Development of the City of Wheat Ridge.
4. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA
It was m.oved by C.ommissi.oner SNOW and sec.onded by C.ommissi.oner McNAMEE t.o
appr.ove the .order .ofthe agenda with the additi.on .of Item 10(C} "Electi.on of Officers."
The m.oti.on passed unanim.ously.
5. APPROVE MINUTES
Chair MacDOUGALL requested an amendment to the minutes to reflect that he called the
meeting to order rather than Vice Chair SNOW.
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It was m.oved by C.ommissi.oner SNOW and sec.onded by C.ommissi.oner GOKEY t.o
appr.ove the minutes .ofN.ovember 2, 2000 as amended. The m.oti.on passed unanim.ously.
6. PUBLIC FORUM
There was no one to appear before the Commission.
A. Case N.o. WZ-00-I0: An application by Sandra Thompson for approval ofa rezoning
from Commercial-One (C-I) with restricted uses to a Planned Commercial
Development and for approval of an outline development plan and a combined
preliminary and final development plan and plat for property located at 11808 West
44th Avenue.
7. PUBLIC HEARING
This case was presented by Meredith Reckert. She reviewed the staff report, presented slides
and overheads of the subject property. All pertinent documents were entered into the record
and she advised the Commission there was jurisdiction to hear the case. Staff recommended
approval of the application with conditions as outlined in the staff report.
Commissioner SNOW inquired as to the reasons landscaping was only required on the west
side and not the east side of the subject property. Meredith Reckert replied that the western and
southern sides were focused upon because of the greenbelt. Further, the adjacent neighbor to
the south requested a fence and foliage.
Commissioner THOMPSON asked for clarification regarding the use under the proposed plan.
Meredith Reckert explained that it would be limited to recreational vehicle sales and storage.
Boats may be stored, but cannot be sold.
Commissioner THOMPSON referred to the trees under the power poles on 44th and requested
that those trees be moved and replaced with trees that don't grow tall enough to require
trimming by the Public Service Company. She also expressed concern that there' is not
sufficient room for trees to be planted along the outside of the fence on Tabor. If the road is
ever widened, the trees would have to be removed,
Commissioner THOMPSON expressed concern about the proposed right-of-way dedication on
Tabor and suggested Janguage from Public Works. She did not believe unrestricted access
should ever be allowed from Tabor Street. She further expressed concern about the height of
vehicles parked on the eastern and southern edges of the property and asked that code
enforcement look into the present situation where tall vehicles are parked in these locations.
Mike Garcia stated that there are no plans in the future for widening Tabor. The city is
requesting the IS-foot dedication so that, in the event of a future use change, the street would
meet our standard from centerline.
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Commissioner DOYLE referred to light maintenance of boats, travel trailers and motor homes.
The application states "no motor work or drive chain work." He asked that "drive chain" be
changed to "drive train." Commissioner DOYLE inquired about drainage of water from work
in the service bays. Staff replied that this would be under the jurisdiction of the appropriate
sanitation district.
In response to a question from Commission COOPER regarding the curb cut on Tabor,
Meredith Reckert explained that it was requested by the fire department to be used for
emergency access only and, to her knowledge, it has never been used.
Sandra Th.omps.on
3319 Raleigh Street, Denver
Ms. Thompson, architect for the applicant, was sworn in by Chair MacDOUGALL. When Mr. '
Sach learned that he could not provide sales on the back lot, he decided to pursue the rezoning.
She stated that Mr. Sach has a good relationship with his neighbors. She felt this plan meets
the neighbors' desires while allowing Mr. Sach to operate his business in the manner he would
like. She agreed that there should be a height limitation for vehicles parked along the east and
south side. She further stated that there would be twenty feet of landscaping on the west. The
City forester has suggested combining hawthorn trees with the fence to provide additional
security and the applicant is in agreement with the recommendation. She further stated that
there will be no heavy motor, drive train or transmission work done on this property and there
will be no storage of propane on the property, In regard to the proposed IS-foot dedication for
Tabor, the applicant would like to have the option of removing the existing fence in the event
Tabor is ever widened. She stated that the present access from Tabor is locked and the fire
department has a key.
Commissioner GOKEY expressed concern that the 24-foot opening to the rear lot should be
made larger to accommodate two vehicles at one time to prevent the entry from ever becoming
blocked.
Commissioner THOMPSON suggested utilizing the seventeen customer parking spaces along
the C-l zoning for the parking of taller vehicles. The customer/employee parking could then be
located along the east side of the property.
Harry Sach
3224 Beech C.ourt, G.olden
Mr. Sach, the applicant, was sworn in by Chair MacDOUGALL. He stated he was unaware
that he was not to park taller vehicles along the east side ofthe property. He would be
agreeable, if this is made a condition of approval, to park smaller vehicles there.
In response to a question from Commissioner THOMPSON, Mr. Sach stated that he would be
agreeable to using the spaces along the C-l zone property to the west for taller vehicles.
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In response to a question from Commissioner McNAMEE, Meredith Reckert stated that a note
could be added to say that anything parked on the east side could not exceed the height of the
fence.
Commissioner GOKEY suggested that the amount of customer parking could be reduced. Mr.
Sach agreed because he does not have a large amount of customers at anyone time.
Commissioner GOKEY requested that body work and painting be disallowed on the property.
Chair MacDOUGALL asked if there was a waste dumping facility on the grounds. Mr. Sach
replied that a dumping station does exist, but it is never used.
In response to a question from Commissioner COOPER, Mr. Sach indicated that he would
agree to the city's recommendation for a Class 6 road base on the rear of the lot.
In response to a question from Commissioner SNOW, Mr. Sach replied that there is an existing
irrigation system for the landscaping.
Ge.orge Isquith
4350 Tab.or Street
Mr. Isquith was sworn in by Chair MacDOUGALL. He was in favor of the height restriction
on vehicles parked along the eastern boundary. He asked for clarification about the planned
commercial development process. Meredith Reckert presented a zoning history of the property
and explained the purposes of a planned commercial development. She explained that staff is
in favor of the plan because it is specific to the property, A regular C-l zoning would allow
many other uses and staff feels this is a protection for the neighborhood. Mr. Isquith stated he
is not opposed to Mr. Sach's operation, but expressed concern about what could happen if
ownership changes,
Diane Christensen
4311 Tab.or
Ms. Christensen was sworn in by Chair MacDOUGALL. She stated that Mr. Sach has been a
good neighbor and is in favor of his application. She requested an eight foot fence on the south
and east boundaries with hawthorns grown close enough to form a tight protective hedge. She
also stated that her yard and crawl space were flooded to the foundation line this last summer
during a heavy rainfall. She has lived in her house since 1971, and stated this is the only time
flooding has occurred.
Chair MacDOUGALL asked about the historic runofffor this property. Mr. Garcia stated that
the lot drains into a retention pond. However, upon thorough investigation, staff could find no
records of a drainage report on this property.
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Ms, Christensen stated that the irrigation ditch running through the property was covered in
1992 or 1993 by the previous owner.
Commissioner THOMPSON suggested adding a condition to require a drainage study for the
property.
Commissioner COOPER suggested that a condition might be added to prevent the use of the
dumping station. She also inquired about requirements for the removal of the dumping station.
Chair MacDOUGALL commented that the sanitation district would need to be involved in the
removal of the station.
Meredith Reckert commented that a condition could be placed for the existing dump station to
be eliminated and the proper procedure be followed for removal.
Commissioner COOPER asked if planting hawthorns 15 feet apart would provide the kind of
hedge Ms. Christensen described. Meredith Reckert replied that the 15 foot spacing was
recommended by the city forester, but she would check back with him regarding Ms.
Christensen's desires.
Harry Sach returned to the podium and testified that the dump station enters into the sanitary
sewer. He commented that the facilities were already in place when he purchased the property,
He also stated that he went to Ms. Christensen's house after the storm she referred to and asked
if any water got into her house. She told him that no water came into her house, although water
did come into her yard.
(Chair MacDOUGALL declared a recess at 9:25 p,m, The meeting reconvened at 9:40 p,m.)
C.ommissi.oner SNOW m.oved and C.ommissi.oner GOKEY sec.onded that, due t.o the
lateness .of the h.our, item lO(a) "Z.oning C.ode Rewrite" be c.ontinued t.o a date t.o be
determined later in the meeting. The m.oti.on passed unanim.ously.
Commissioner THOMPSON prefaced her motion by stating that she would like to see the
Comprehensive Plan adhered to and someday see residential zoning on this property. However,
in the meantime, she believed this plan would give some protection to residential properties in
the area.
It was m.oved by C.ommissi.oner THOMPSON and sec.onded by C.ommissi.oner GOKEY
that Case N.o. WZ-00-I0, a request f.or appr.oval.of a z.one change fr.om C.ommercial-One
with unrestricted uses and C.ommercial-One with restricted uses t.o Planned C.ommercial
Devel.opment and f.or appr.oval .of an .outline devel.opment plan f.or pr.operty l.ocated at
11800,11808 and 11880 West 44th Avenue be APPROVED f.or the f.oll.owing reas.ons:
1. It will eliminate tw.o different z.onings .on three pr.operties .owned by a single entity.
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2. It will all.ow m.ore c.ontr.ol by the city .of the p.otential negative effects .of an .open-
ended c.ommercial z.one.
3. It all.ows the city .opp.ortunity t.o impr.ove buffering f.or adjacent pr.operty .owners,
1. N.o bulk pr.opaue st.orage be all.owed .on the pr.operty.
With the f.oll.owing c.onditi.ous:
2. Only .one freestanding sign, which is presently existing, may remain and, if
lighted, the limitati.ons .on h.ours .of .operati.on neg.otiated with the neighb.orh.o.od
must be f.oll.owed.
3. The s.olid w.o.oden fence al.ong the western and s.outheru pr.operty lines be increased
t.o 8 feet in height.
4. The existing recycled asphalt be replaced with a clean, Class 6 r.oad base.
5. The western wall .of the building shall have a stucc.o finish.
6. Dumpster l.ocati.ons need t.o be added with screening .of u.onc.ombustible material.
7. N.o access t.o Tab.or, n.ow .or iu the future, except f.or emergency fire access.
8. N.o st.orage al.ong Tab.or, the s.outhern fence line and adjacent t.o the .open space
pr.operty shall exceed the height .of the fence.
9. Irrigati.on systems shall be installed f.or all planted areas.
10. The detenti.on p.oud shall be designed t.o retain aud release water at the hist.oric
fl.ow and will be maintained per a drainage rep.ort.
11. The .owner shall w.ork with the city and the sanitati.on district and f.oll.ow the
sanitati.on district's requirements in regard t.o the existing dump stati.on.
12. N.o b.ody w.ork, engiue .or transmissi.on repair, .or paint facility will be all.owed .on
this pr.operty; and the w.ords "drive chain" shall be changed t.o "drive train" in
N.o.3 .of the final devel.opment plan.
13. Increased planting w.ould .occur fr.om the fire access n.orth t.o the s.outh side .of the
building al.ong Tab.or Street .on the inside .ofthe fence.
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Commissioner SNOW indicated she would vote against the motion because:
1) The original zoning was granted upon representation by the owner that RV storage
would be an interim use.
2) Citizens have a right to expect that any zoning changes should be in conformance with
the Comprehensive Plan.
3) Fruitdale Master Plan in effect at the time for the original zoning as well as the current
Comprehensive Plan show the southern part of the subject property as being residential.
4) There have been no recent commercial changes which extend as far south as this
application. It will go 200 feet farther south than other commercial uses and is
incompatible with residential neighborhoods on the east, south and the greenbelt on the
west.
5) Drainage problems were brought up during this meeting that have not been addressed,
6) The final plan and outline plans don't match in regard to the southern and southeastern
areas.
7) The Comprehensive Plan should be complied with on the southern portion of the
property.
The m.oti.on passed 6-2 with C.ommissi.oners COLLINS and SNOW v.oting n.o.
It was m.oved by C.ommissi.oner SNOW that the request f.or appr.oval .of a Planned
C.ommercial Devel.opment final devel.opment plan f.or pr.operty l.ocated at 11808 West 44th
Avenue be c.ontinued t.o a date t.o be determined until a plan is presented that matches the
appr.oved .outline plan.
Meredith Reckert explained and demonstrated that the two plans do match. C.ommissi.oner
SNOW withdrew her m.oti.on alth.ough she still felt the plan was n.ot clearly marked.
It was m.oved by C.ommissi.oner THOMPSON and sec.onded by C.ommissi.oner
McNAMEE that the request f.or appr.oval .of a Planned C.ommercial Devel.opment final
devel.opment plan f.or pr.operty l.ocated at 11800, 11808 and 11880 West 44th Avenue be
APPROVED f.or the f.oll.owing reas.ons:
1. The applicant has tried t.o mitigate negative effects t.o adjacent pr.operty .owners by
physical impr.ovements (fencing, increased landscaping and the parking .ofRV
vehicles al.ong the east, s.outh and western p.orti.ons adjacent t.o the greenbelt.)
2. The applicant has tried t.o mitigate negative effects t.o adjacent pr.operty .owners
thr.ough .operati.onal parameters (n.o P A systems, limited h.ours .of .operati.on and
the lighting).
3. It will all.ow m.ore c.ontr.ol by the city .of the p.otential negative effects .of an .open-
ended c.ommercial zone.
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With the f.oll.owing c.onditi.ons:
1. N.o bulk pr.opanest.orage be all.owed .on the pr.operty.
2. Only .one freestanding sign, which is presently existing, may remain and, if
lighted, the limitati.ons .on h.ours .of .operati.on neg.otiated with the neighb.orh.o.od
must be f.oll.owed.
3. The s.olid w.o.oden fence al.ong the western and s.outhern pr.operty lines be increased
t.o 8 feet in height.
4. The existing recycled asphalt be replaced with a clean, Class 6 r.oad base.
5. The western wall .ofthe building shall have a stucc.o finish.
6. Dumpster l.ocati.ons need t.o be added with screening .of n.onc.ombustible material.
7. N.o access t.o Tab.or, n.ow .or in the future, except f.or emergency fire access.
8. N.o st.orage al.ong Tab.or, the s.outhern fence line and adjacent t.o the .open space
pr.operty shall exceed the height .of the fence.
9. Irrigati.on systems shall be installed f.or all planted areas.
10. The detenti.on p.ond shall be designed t.o retain and release water at the hist.oric
fl.ow and will be maintained per a drainage rep.ort.
11. The .owner shall w.ork with the city and the sanitati.on district and f.oll.ow the
sanitati.on district's requirements in regard t.o the existing dump stati.on.
12. N.o b.ody w.ork, engine .or transmissi.on repair, .or paint facility will be all.owed .on
this pr.operty; and the w.ords "drive chain" shall be changed t.o "drive train" in
N.o. 3 .ofthe final devel.opment plan.
13. Increased planting w.ould .occur fr.om the fire access n.orth t.o the s.outh side .of the
building al.ong Tab.or Street.on the inside .of the fence.
Commissioner SNOW stated that she would vote against the motion for the same reasons
previously listed with an additional reason that the final plan does not clearly and precisely
follow the drawing that was submitted and approved with the outline plan, and neither plan has
measurements showing exactly what area can be used only for boats and low profile RV's.
The m.oti.on passed 6-2 with C.ommissi.oners GOKEY and SNOW v.oting n.o.
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Commissioner THOMPSON requested that the staff review the outline development plan and
make any necessary recommendations to City Council which would cause the two plans to
match more clearly.
It was m.oved by C.ommissi.oner COOPER and sec.onded by C.ommissi.oner McNAMEE
that the request f.or appr.oval .of a c.ons.olidati.on plat f.or pr.operty l.ocated at 11800, 11808
and 11880 West 44th Avenue be APPROVED f.or the f.oll.owing reas.ons:
1. It will c.ons.olidate three existing parcels int.o .one.
2. Fifteen feet .of right-.of-way will be dedicated f.or Tab.or Street.
With the f.oll.owing c.onditi.ons:
1. The easement n.ote requested by Public Service C.ompany be added .ont.o the plat
face.
2. Min.or technicalities requested by the city survey.or be c.orrected pri.or t.o City
C.ouncil hearing.
Commissioner SNOW stated she would vote against the motion because, while she believed it
was a good idea to consolidate the two fully commercial lots on the north end of the property,
the southern portion of the property should be developed separately. Further, she was not in
favor of the additional 15 feet ofright-of-way on Tabor Street.
The m.oti.on passed 4-3 with C.ommissi.oners COLLINS, GOKEY and SNOW v.oting n.o.
8. CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING
Chair MacDOUGALL declared the public hearing closed.
9. OLD BUSINESS
There was no old business to come before the Commission.
10. NEW BUSINESS
A. Z.oninl: C.ode Rewrite - Discussi.on and Establish Meetinl!: Dates
It was m.oved by C.ommissi.oner SNOW and sec.onded by C.ommissi.oner COLLINS
that Planning C.ommissi.on meetings be held .on N.ovember 30 and December 7 t.o
c.onsider .only the z.oning c.ode rewrite; and, further, that the December 21
Planning C.ommissi.on meeting be canceled. The m.oti.on passed unanim.ously.
Alan White informed the Commission that City Council has set first reading for
adoption of the zoning code on January 22, 2001.
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B. Electi.on .of Officers - The following officers were elected by secret ballot:
Marian McNamee, Chairman
Jerry Collins, Vice Chairman
C. CML W.orksh.on - Alan White announced that there will be a CML workshop on
December 15. Commissioners should contact Kathy Field if they wish to attend.
11. COMMISSION REPORTS
A. Brewer Tire Pr.onertv - Commissioner THOMPSON requested staff to investigate the
outside storage of tires on this property. She believed the owners are in violation of the
outside storage ordinance.
12. COMMITTEE AND DEPARTMENT REPORTS
There were no committee or department reports.
13. ADJOURNMENT
C.ommissi.oner SNOW m.oved and C.ommissi.oner GOKEY sec.onded t.o adj.ourn the
meeting at 10:20 p.m.
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Ann Lazzeri, Rec~ecretary
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