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W H E A T R I D G E B OAR D O F A D J U S T M E N T
MlivurnS OF MEETING
March 28, 1996
1. CALL T8E MEETING TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order
by Chairman WALKER at 7:35 P.M. on March 28, 1996, in the
Council Chambers of the Municipal Building, 7500 West 29th
Avenue, Wheat Ridge, Colorado.
2. ROLL CALL: MEMBERS PRESENT:
Bill Echelmeyer
Robert Howard
Susan Junker
Edwin Rossillon
Robert Walker
MEMBERS ABSENT:
STAFF PRESENT:
Tom Abbott
Paul Hovland
Meredith Reckert, Planner
Mary Lou Chapla, Secretary
PIIBLIC SEARING
The following is the official set of Board of Adjustment minutes
for the Public Hearing of March 28, 1996. A set of these minutes
is retained both in the office of the City Clerk and in the
Department of Planning and Development of the City of Wheat
Ridge.
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2. APPROVE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA
Motion was made Board Member HOWARD, seconded by Board
Member JUNKER, to approve the order of the agenda as
printed. Motion carried.
3. PUBLIC FORUM (This is the time for anyone to speak on any
subject not appearing on the agenda.)
No one came forward to speak.
4. PUBLIC HEARING
A. Vase No_ WA-96-6: An application by James Meadows for
approval of a 4' side yard setback variance to the required
5' side yard setback for a detached garage on property zoned
Residential-Two and located at 6540 W. 32nd Avenue.
Meredith Reckert presented the staff report. All pertinent
documents were entered into record, which Chairman WALKER
accepted. Ms. Reckert also entered into record three photos
• (per the applicant) of the property in question. Photos
were labeled Exhibit 'A'.
Board Member ECHELMEYER corrected the staff report saying
there is a window on the west end of the garage that faces
the property. He could not see what the problem is with the
Cottonwood trees, as they are all out front, and Ms. Reckert
said she would rather let the applicant speak on that.
Board Member HOWARD asked if it has been determined as to
whether that concrete slab is built to code to support a
two-car garage on that site, and Ms. Reckert answered to her
knowledge that has not been asked of the building
department, but she believes they would not issue a permit
until they had some certification stating such.
Chairman WALKER asked if the new garage is going to be
adjacent to the existing garage, Ms. Reckert answered she
believes it will be offset.
Board Member ROSSILLON said since the applicant wants to
build this garage one foot from the property line, would
that be the wall or the overhang. Ms. Reckert answered
technically, an encroachment of 30 inches is allowed with
the eave, but the Board could place a condition on the
approval because of the drainage concern. Staff allows an
eave overhang of 30 inches into a setback line and even with
a variance, the setback is measured to the foundation wall.
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She said there could be an encroachment of the eave line
unless the board makes a condition that not occur.
Board Member ROSSILLON said with a 30" overhang, the eave
line would then stick 18" into Mr. Jones' neighbor's yard
and that cannot be done.
No further questions were asked of staff at-this time.
The applicant, Jill Meadows, owner of the. property, was
sworn in. She introduced her stepfather, Ray Marcouillier,
who is the contractor and would present the case.
Ray Marcouillier was sworn in. He said the purpose of using
the existing foundation is limiting the cost of having to
tear it out and redo it. On the west side there are utility
guide wires, telephone box and cable, etc, which would all
have to be moved if they put a driveway there. At the rear
of the yard is a Cottonwood tree that would have to come
down and that would be an additional expense because it is
in the center where the garage would be located; so
basically there are problems on either side of the house.
Addressing the overhang on the eaves question-- they plan to
use a simple rakeboard on the siding and there would not be
any eaves. It would basically be a gabled roof with just a
flat freeze board about 3/4 of an inch past the foundation.
They plan to use the underground drainage because at the
middle of the house the lot slopes away and they want to run
piping in so it will drain to the center of their yard, plus
both gutters will drain toward the center of this property.
Their survey shows the existing foundation is inside the
property line.
Mr. Marcouillier said there are three homes in the area that
have similar setbacks with less than 5' from the property
lines and two are attached garages. They have plans of
using Tibbets Engineering to determine its suitability to
meet the codes of Wheat Ridge. The foundation has an 8"
wall and was dug down 3 feet past the frost line.
Chairman WALKER asked what size would the garage be, and Mr.
Marcouillier replied 20' wide and 22' deep. That size of
garage would support two vehicles.
Board Member ECHELMEYER questioned the tree difficulty on
the present slab and Mr. Marcouillier answered there is no
tree problem.
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Board Member ECHELMEYER asked how far would it be to the
peak of this roof, and Mr. Marcouillier answered roughly 13
feet.
Mr. Marcouillier said they talked with the neighbors on the
south and there does not seem to be any objections mainly
because these particular neighbors have a utility shed in
their site anyway.
Board Member ECHELMEYER asked if the applicant has ever
considered a carport with a shallow roof that slopes to the
east, and Mr. Marcouillier answered no because the neighbors
did not object to these plans.
Board Member HOWARD wanted to know the width of the
driveway, and Mr. Marcouillier said it is 15' from the side
of the house to the property line and the outside edge of
the slab is approximately 4.6 inches. The driveway will be
6 inches in.
Board Member HOWARD asked how close will the garage be to
the house, and Mr. Marcouillier answered it will be about 8'
• back from the house.
Board Member ECHELMEYER said if the applicant was to put the
structure with the required 5' setback it looked to him that
there is room for 3 cars on a diagonal, and Mr. Marcouillier
said the purpose-is to try and .use the existing slab and
foundation as it would be a hardship and expense to rip it
out and replace it. Ms. Meadows added the third vehicle was
only there to unload new vinyl tile, and normally they do
not park 3 cars there because it is hard to get the second
car out.
Board Member ROSSILLON asked if there is
side, and Mr. Marcouillier answered they
that goes back about 4 feet. He stepped
would be the same as the foundation. He
talk to the engineering firm to discuss
walls together.
a wall on the west
have a partial wall
it down so the slab
said he needs to
iow they tie the two
Board Member ROSSILLON asked staff if they knew what an
engineering firm requires for a foundation for a garage such
as this, and Ms. Reckert said she could not answer that,
however staff does require that the certification be stamped
by a licensed engineer.
Chairman WALKER said as a point of order, if there are any
problems with this foundation, it would be with the process
as they applied for the permit and has nothing to do with
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what this committee approves. It would not conceivably
create the situation where they'd have to have their footer
go out over the property line to support this thing, and Ms.
Reckert agreed.
No further questions were asked.
Motion was made by Board Member ROSSILLON, that Case No. WA-
96-6, an application by James Meadows, be APPROVED for the
following reasons:
1. The Board finds that based upon all evidence presented
and based upon the Board's conclusions relative to the
nine specific questions to justify the variance, the
evidence and facts in this case do support the granting
of this request.
2. There is unfavorable topography of the lot which
precludes the viable alternative.
WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. The applicant will have a qualified engineer certify
that the foundation is adequate.
2. The drainage cannot flow to the adjacent property.
Motion seconded by Board Member JUNKER. Motion carried 4-1
with Board Member ECHELMEYER voting no. Resolution
attached.
B. Case No. WA-96-7: An application by Anthony Kelly for
approval of a 9' side yard setback variance to the required
15' side yard setback to allow a 12' x 18' shed on property
zoned Residential-One and located at 2981 Teller Street.
Meredith Reckert presented the staff report. All pertinent
documents were entered into record, which Chairman WALKER
accepted.
Board Member ROSSILLON wanted to know what trees are causing
a problem, and Ms. Reckert replied she believes they are
referring to the two pine trees on the property.
No further questions were asked of staff.
The applicant, Roseanna Kelly, 2981 Teller Street, was sworn
in. Ms. Kelly said her husband came to the City and asked
and was given the wrong zoning regulations. He was given
the Residential-Two regulations and the excavating that he
• did was well within those regs.
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If they were to move the shed in 15' they would have to
remove the smaller pine tree. They wanted to keep the shed
off the yard as much as possible because they really like
having the wide open yard and sacrificed by buying a smaller
dwelling because they love the larger yard.
Board Member ECHELMEYER stated in looking at the site he did
not see any impact on the trees even if_they moved the shed
out, and Ms. Kelley replied it definitely does, but you
probably would have to see it from the yard because it is
hard to tell from the angle on the picture. Board Member
ECHELMEYER said he does think the proposed shed is in the
nicest spot it can be because it would be shielded by the
trees on the east and the fence and unit to the west of it.
Board Member ROSSILLON questioned why couldn't the 12' x 18'
shed be turned 90 degrees making the shed 18' x 12' and
staying within the setback. Ms. Reckert commented that when
Mr. Kelley applied they had talked about that, but it would
create a worse problem with the tree. Board Member
ROSSILLON said he feels there may be an alternative. Ms.
Reckert said it would have been helpful if the trees were
• shown on the plan.
Tt was noted there were no complaints received. No further
questions were asked.
Motion was made by Board Member ROSSILLON that Case No. WA-
96-7, an application by Anthony Kelly, be DENIED for the
following reasons:
1. The Board finds that based upon all evidence presented
and based upon the Board's conclusions relative to the
nine specific questions to justify the variance, the
evidence and facts in this case do not support the
granting of this request.
2. There appears to be an alternative location.
Motion seconded by Board Member HOWARD. Motion for denial
carried 4-1 with Board Member ECHELMEYER voting no.
Resolution attached.
C. Case No. WA-96-8; An application by Wayne and Alice Hinkle
for the approval of a 10' rear yard setback variance to the
30' required rear yard setback for property zoned
Residential-Two and located at 3420 Garland Street.
Meredith Reckert presented the staff report. All pertinent
documents were entered into record, which Chairman WALKER
accepted.
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Board Member ECHELMEYER questioned what is the brick
structure to the north, and Ms. Reckert replied she believes
it is owned by Public Service but she does not know what it
is used for.
Board Member ECHELMEYER asked how long has the structure
been there, and Ms. Reckert said she does not know for sure,
but quite awhile. Chairman WALKER added he thinks it is a
pump house.
Board Member ECHELMEYER asked if that structure would still
have to meet residential setbacks, and Ms. Reckert answered
yes, staff would consider that an accessory structure which
would still have to meet the 30' setback if it were to be
built today.
Board Member ECHELMEYER said it seems
along Garrison Street if they dropped
the code that the applicants would be
the whole west side of the street and
saying there was a specific 15' setba~
1992 in the area.
to him when going
back 30 feet and fit
the exception along
Ms. Reckert agreed
~k variance granted in
• No further questions were asked of staff.
The applicant, Wayne Scott Hinkle, 3420 Garland Street,was
sworn in. Mr. Hinkle said out of 16 properties in the area,
there are 9 garages that are 16' back, 2 garages that are on-
the property line, 2 garages that are 5' back, 1 garage is
about 12' back, one 12 1/2', and one 14' back, so basically
no body is within the code as it is now. What he wants to
do is have the front of his garage even with everyone else.
The applicants liked the big lot and had this planned out
and they talked to Sean McCartney about building the garage
but never got into the setbacks because they naturally
assumed they could do what everybody did. Also, if they
went 30' back they would be in the root system of one of
their trees. Mr. Hinkle said they would like to save as
much yard as possible as they do have a dog and a little
girl.
No questions were asked of the applicant.
Motion was made by Board Member ROSSILLON, that Case No. WA-
96-8, an application by Wayne Hinkle, is APPROVED for the
following reasons:
1. The Board finds that based upon all evidence presented
• and based upon the Board's conclusions relative to the
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nine specific questions to justify the variance, the
evidence and facts in this case do support the granting
of this request.
2. The owner has a unique circumstance as this is a double
frontage lot.
3. There are several lots with similar setbacks.
Motion was seconded by Board Member ECHELMEYER. Motion
carried 5-0. Resolution attached.
D. ease No. WA-96-9: An application by Abe and Debra Jones for
approval of a 22' variance to the 30' side yard setback next
to the street on property zoned Residential-Two and located
at 8521 W. 32nd Avenue.
Meredith Reckert presented the staff report. All pertinent
documents were entered into record, which Chairman WALKER
accepted. Ms. Reckert noted there were 3 letters of
objection that were handed out to each member.
Board Member ECHELMEYER said on the back of the existing
garage there is a large flat roofed addition that extends
. almost to the neighbor's fence, and asked how long has that
addition been on, and Ms. Reckert answered she does not know
but the applicant can probably answer that. The drawing
that was submitted shows an existing 5' rear setback which
is assumed it is to the edge of the back of the garage.
Board Member ECHELMEYER asked if there was any kind of
variance given for the existing shed, and Ms. Reckert said
no there was not, and according to what they have submitted
it was there since 1971. Today that would be non-conforming
relative to the code unless the variance were granted.
Board Member ROSSILLON said the existing shed is quite a bit
smaller than what is being proposed, and Ms. Reckert replied
yes, the previous shed was 8' x 14' and they are proposing a
14' x 20' shed.
Board Member ECHELMEYER asked if there were any of the
people present that wrote the letters of protest, and Ms.
Reckert said she does not know.
No further questions were asked of staff.
The applicant, Abe Jones, 8521 W. 32nd Avenue, was sworn in.
Mr. Jones said their shed was destroyed this fall. with the
snow storm and the proposed shed would be approximately in
• the same spot.
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He would like to have the shed 14` x 28'. There would be 8'
walls with a 4/12 pitch, gabled roof. The highest point
will be the same height as the gutters are on the side of
the existing garage.
Board Member ECHELMEYER asked if the shed would have to be
butted up against the garage, and Mr. Jones answered no,
they can be within 1 lj2 foot from the garage. That would
allow him to get in between and clean up the leaves and
branches. Mr. Jones said the siding will match the one on
the house now. Ms. Reckert noted to have that small
separation, it would require the windows to be boarded up.
Mr. Jones said the windows have been boarded up on the
inside since the 70's.
Board Member ECHELMEYER questioned if the 4 1/2' roof peak
would be higher than the existing garage, and Mr. Jones said
he has figured it to be only a 2' peak. Board Member
ECHELMEYER said the drawing shows the distance of the top of
the garage door to the top of the peak is equal to lJ2 the
height of the total garage. Mr. Jones said he figured out a
4/12 pitch would approximately be 24" in height. The
• drawing was done on computer and they were not sure if it
was to scale.
Board Member ECHELMEYER said regardless, what the applicant
has submitted is what would be approved as the size of the
garage. Ms. Reckert added a maximum height condition could
be put on this for approval.
Mr. Jones said his plans are to have 8' walls with a 2'
Beak. The measurement of the garage right now from the
ground to the eaves is about 9'11", so it will be 4 or 5
inches higher than the existing eaves of the garage right
now.
No further questions were asked of the applicant.
Chairman WALKER asked if an owner were to rebuild that
present structure where the roof was crushed in from the
snow, would they need a permit and have to go through this
same process. Ms. Reckert said the existing shed is non-
conforming because of the non-conforming setback and i.f the
applicant repaired it in place he would not have to do
anything, however, i£ he would tear it down and rebuild it
in the same place, he would.
Board Member ROSSILLON asked what is the size limit for an
• ancillary building, and Ms. Reckert said the maximum for a
shed is 400 square feet which they are almost at that now.
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Board Member ECHELMEYER commented there is a big difference
if an applicant has a shed 100 feet off the main street and
in the backyard with nice evergreens around it and only off
maybe 5' from the code than a place that is sitting out like
this house right off of a large intersection and moving into
an area of attractive homes where people keep their
properties up. There is no evidence here that this will
help that neighborhood in any way. Board Member ECHELMEYER
feels the neighborhoods in Wheat Ridge will continue being
tore down until some of these existing ordinances are
enforced. The neighbors that complained about this property
say the problems have been there for a long time. If the
applicant cannot correct the problems now, what will he do
if he just keeps expanding off of a residential street.
Motion was made by Board Member ROSSILLON that Case No. WA-
96-9, an application by Abe and Debra Jones, be DENIED for
the following reasons:
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1. The Board finds that based upon all evidence presented
and based upon the Board's conclusions relative to the
nine specific questions to justify the variance, the
evidence and facts in this case do not support the
granting of this request.
2. The variance will be detrimental to the neighborhood.
Motion was seconded by Board Member JUNRER. Motion carried
5-0. Resolution attached.
4. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING
5. OLD BUSINESS
A. Board Member ECHELMEYER talked on the gradual break
down of residential areas. Discussion followed.
B. Discussion on motions.
6. NEW BUSINESS
A. Approval of Minutes: February 22, 1996
Motion was made to approve the minutes of February 22,
1996 and carried 5-0.
7. ADJOURNMENT
Motion was made by Board Member ROSSILLON, and seconded by
Board Member HOWARD, that the meeting be adjourned. Meeting
adjourned 9:20 p.m.
Mari o Chapla, Sec etary
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