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PLANNING COMMISSION
Minutes of Meeting
September 4, 2008
(The public hearing was preceded by a dinner study session to discuss scope of work for
the Comprehensive Plan Update.)
1. CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chair BRINKMAN at 7:04 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers of the Municipal Building, 7500 West 29t' Avenue, Wheat
Ridge, Colorado.
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ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS
Commission Members Present:
Anne Brinkman
Jim Chilvers
John Dwyer
Dick Matthews
Davis Reinhart
Jerry Scezney
Kim Stewart
Commission Members Absent:
Staff Members Present:
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Steve Timms
Ken Johnstone, Community
Development Director
Meredith Reckert, Senior Planner
Tim Paranto, Public Works Director
Ann Lazzeri, Secretary
APPROVE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA
It was moved by Commissioner STEWART and seconded by Commissioner
MATTHEWS to approve the order of the agenda. The motion passed
unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - August 7, 2008
It was moved by Commissioner MATTHEWS and seconded by
Commissioner REINHART to approve the minutes of August 7, 2008. The
motion passed 5-0 with Commissioners SCEZNEY and STEWART
abstaining and Commissioner TIMMS absent.
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6. PUBLIC FORUM (This is the time for any person to speak on any subject not
appearing on the agenda.)
Bill Parsons
3640 Tabor Court
Mr. Parsons expressed concern that no plans have been made for access from the
Ashton Woods development into the greenbelt. He would like to see a
switchback bike path installed.
PUBLIC HEARING
A. Case No. WZ-07-06: An application filed by Ashton Woods Homes for
approval of a zone change from Residential-One (R-1) and Agricultural-
One (A-1) to Planned Residential Development (PRD) and approval of an
outline development plan for construction of 53 homes on property located
at 11885 West 38th Avenue.
The case was presented by Meredith Reckert. She entered all pertinent
documents into the record and advised the Commission there was jurisdiction to
hear the case. She reviewed the staff report and digital presentation. Staff
recommended approval for reasons, and with conditions, as outlined in the staff
report.
Bill Howard
Plan West, Inc.
6130 S. Greenwood Plaza Boulevard
Mr. Howard, representing Ashton Woods, introduced Ralph Farrell.
Ralph Farrell
National Vice President, Ashton Woods
Mr. Farrell presented the history of Ashton Woods Homes which has been
building in the U.S. for the last sixteen years. Colorado is a new market for the
company. They focus on energy efficient building and have received many
national awards in the homebuilding industry.
Bill Howard returned to the podium. He briefly described the development and
stated that the site can easily be characterized as an infill site because the
surrounding area is already developed. The gross density is at 3.5 units per acre.
Lot sizes and home sizes have been increased as a result of comments received at
the neighborhood meeting. Tree lawns and detached sidewalks have been
designed. Every attempt will be made to save trees along 38`h Avenue. Average
price for homes in the development will be around $500,000.
Chair BRINKMAN asked to hear from members of the public.
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Tom Klinger
11735 West 38th Avenue
Mr. Klinger stated that it would be a travesty if some type of access is not made
into the greenbelt area from the proposed subdivision.
In response to a question from Commissioner CHILVERS, Mr. Klinger said there
is an unofficial undeveloped access at the north end of the Kullerstrand playing
fields. There is a developed access off of Oak and one from the McLaughlin's
subdivision.
Arthur Brenner
PO Box 160, Evergreen
Mr. Brenner stated that he attended the meeting for information and was mostly in
favor of the project.
Joe Meigs
3936 Simms Street
Mr. Meigs stated that there has been opportunity to discuss concerns with the
developer; however, he was still concerned about the proposed density of the
development. He stated that the McLaughlin's Applewood Estates has a density
of 52 lots on 20.5 acres while the Ashton Woods development has a density of 53
lots on 15 acres. He did not believe the Ashton Woods development complies
with the Comprehensive Plan that recommends no more than 4 units per acre and
development must be compatible with the surrounding neighborhood. Ashton
Woods is proposing 4.5 units per acre and the lots along the eastern boundary
adjacent to McLaughlin's are smaller than those in McLaughlin's. He wanted to
know how architectural controls would be enforced.
Susan Wood
3936 Simms
Ms. Wood expressed concern about compatibility with the existing neighborhood
in that density in McLaughlin's is 3.2 units per acre while Ashton Woods is
proposing 3.8 units per acre. She suggested that dropping the number of units
from 53 to 47 would result in density equal to the existing neighborhood. She
expressed further concern about lot sizes on the eastern side adjacent to
McLaughlin's. She did not believe 9,000 square foot lots were compatible with
the 12,000 square foot lots. She was also concerned about how architectural
controls would be enforced.
Steve Labriola
11920 West 38th Avenue
Mr. Labriola was satisfied with Ashton Woods' product, but was concerned about
density. He suggested eliminating 7 or 8 lots from the present plan. He would
also like to see a path to the greenway. If that is impossible, he would like to have
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several small pocket parks. He was also concerned about graffiti damage to the
proposed brick wall on 38th Avenue.
Commissioner DWYER commented that other developments in the area had
fences. Mr. Labriola agreed that there are wooden fences along 38th. They get
tagged and power-washed and look terrible. He suggested foliage in front of the
wall.
Steven Trefz
11662 West 39th Place
Mr. Trefz stated that he lives in the McLaughlin's subdivision and his property
borders the Ashton Woods proposed development. He would like to see one-
story houses along the eastern border with offsets along the property line so that
he doesn't lose every view he has.
Ken Asbury
3882 Union Court
Mr. Asbury stated he was speaking for a majority of homeowners of the Prospect
Ridge Subdivision. He entered into the record a list of signatures of residents
who had the following concerns: lot sizes in the interior should be increased to a
minimum of 9,000 square feet and density reduced to 3.2 units per acre. The
density on lots 35 through 53 is too great. He expressed appreciation that Ashton
Woods has been working with neighbors in addressing many of their concerns.
Barry and Sherry Knott
3911 Simms
The Knott's did not approach the podium, but expressed their concern about
density from the audience.
Tony Ficco
12415 W. 38th Avenue
Mr. Ficco stated that he was not opposed to development as long as it is done
correctly. He was opposed to the 20-foot front setbacks and the 7.5 side setbacks.
He stated that there is not a need for revitalization in this neighborhood which is
one of the nicest in Wheat Ridge and there is no reason to downzone. He was
also opposed to the density. The McLaughlin's subdivision has 25% lot coverage
while the Ashton Woods proposal is 40%. He stated that he knows people who
live in the houses to the west of the subdivision who have been denied 12%
variances on 12,500 square foot lots. He did not believe it would be a hardship
for the developer to reduce density to have 9,000 square feet lot sizes with 30%
lot coverage.
Tony Rodriguez
11441 West 39th Place
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Mr. Rodriguez did not approach the podium but expressed concern about density
and lack of greenbelt access.
Susan Berenberm
11658 West 39`h Circle
Ms. Berenberm asked if fencing would occur on the east side of the development.
John Moore
12201 West 38t'
Mr. Moore expressed concern about density and the effect on wildlife.
Chair BRINKMAN asked if there were others who wished to address the
Commission. Hearing no response, she closed the public comment portion of the
hearing.
Regarding the issues of access to the greenbelt, Meredith Reckert explained that it
is not the developer who doesn't want to build the trail. The city determined that
a trail in this steep location would be an engineering challenge in order to make
the trail ADA compliant. It would also reduce the stability of the slope. That is
why the Parks Commission recommended fees in lieu of land dedication and did
not recommend a pocket park in the area.
In response to a question from Commissioner DWYER regarding enforceability
of design standards, Ms. Reckert explained that by incorporating design standards
into the ODP document, the city would have to review every building permit to
make sure it adheres to those design standards.
Bill Howard returned to podium. He stated that in documenting square footage
of lots on McLaughlin's lots as compared to Ashton Woods', there is not a huge
disparity between the two. The size and bulk of the homes in the proposed
development are similar to the adjacent development. The applicant has worked
hard to establish compatibility with homes on the edges of the subdivision. The
untrained eye will not be able to tell much difference between the proposed
subdivision and the McLaughlin's subdivision. He commented that people should
deal with real perception and not get caught up in manipulation of density
numbers. It is not planned to build smaller homes in the center of the
development. There will probably be larger homes, possibly custom homes, on
the northern perimeter.
Regarding open space access, Mr. Howard commented that some residents of the
McLaughlin's subdivision have expressed concern about the access from their
subdivision into the greenbelt because it presents a potential security issue by
providing free access to individuals walking through the open space. The subject
open space leading to the greenbelt is fairly pristine open space with many trees.
The plan is to preserve all the vegetation on the bank and preserve as many trees
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on the perimeter of the development as possible. Ashton Woods is committed to
meet the quality standards outlined in the ODP.
In response to a question from Commissioner REINHART regarding fencing on
the east side of the development, Mr. Howard stated that the existing barbed wire
fence would be replaced with brick pillars and white vinyl. However, the
developer would be willing to discuss alternatives if this presents problems with
neighbors. Regarding maintenance of masonry fence along 38`h Avenue, the
HOA would be responsible for upkeep.
Commissioner MATTHEWS asked if Mr. Howard felt that the vegetation on the
bank would present a fire hazard. Mr. Howard replied that it would present no
more of a fire hazard than any other place along the open space. People who live
along the open space have the ability to reduce the fire hazard on the back of their
own lots by using their irrigation system to keep the vegetation from getting dried
out even though it is public space.
Commissioner CHILVERS asked Mr. Howard to provide a percentage difference
in density between Ashton Woods and McLaughlin's. Mr. Howard estimated that
it would be about a 5% difference. However, to be exact, Mr. Howard stated that
he did not have the figures with him at this time, but would be happy to provide
exact calculations to the staff and Planning Commission.
Commissioner STEWART asked why the houses on the east side of the
development are not offset in the same way they are on the west side. Mr.
Howard replied that it was much more difficult to make it happen on the east side
because the lot sizes are similar and start in the same place as the adjacent
development.
Commissioner STEWART asked if the lot coverage percentage for the
McLaughlin's subdivision was known. Ms. Reckert replied that it is zoned R-IA
which calls for no more than 30%, however she did not know what the average is
or what variances had been granted. She also commented that when this property
was subdivided in 1986, people thought the density was too great.
Mr. Howard commented that his experience over the years in the home building
business, shows that there is a trend toward smaller lots with the same size houses
in an effort to use less water for landscaping.
Commissioner CHILVERS asked how the original plan to build 72 houses was
reduced to 53. Mr. Howard replied that the original design was for a different
product that would appeal to empty nesters. However, after strong objections
from the neighbors, the plan was changed to reflect existing development in the
neighborhood in terms of size, density and value.
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Commissioner MATTHEWS asked if the developer would be amendable to
working with the city to provide greenbelt access.
Ross Brazil
Plan West, Inc.
6130 Greenwood Plaza
Mr. Brazil stated that there is an extraordinary amount of storm drainage in the
area which must be accommodated and conveyed down the slope which will
make it necessary to bore underground into the hillside. In addition, there are
many wetlands spots as well as habitat for a federally protected orchid. He stated
that the odds of getting Jefferson County to approve access through this area
would be nil.
(The meeting was recessed from 9:05 p.m. to 9:11 p.m.)
It was moved by Commissioner REINHART and seconded by Commissioner
MATTHEWS to recommend approval of Case No. WZ-07-06, a request for
approval of a rezoning from Residential-One and Agriculture-One to
Planned Residential Development and an Outline Development Plan for
property located at 11885 West 38th Avenue, for the following reasons:
1. A change in character of the area has occurred due to adjacent
properties having been rezoned and/or subdivided and developed with
single family homes.
2. The rezoning is compatible with surrounding zoning and land uses
and, while slightly over the density recommendation on the Future
Land Use map, is consistent with the goals and objectives of both the
Comprehensive Plan and Neighborhood Revitalization Strategy.
3. Adequate infrastructure will be constructed as a result of
development. There will be further benefit to the area to the upgrade
of the sanitary sewer main line east of the property.
4. The change in zone will not adversely affect the public health, safety
or welfare.
With the following conditions:
1. The developer continue working with Jefferson County Open Space
regarding design of the storm drainage channel to Clear Creek and
easement procurement.
2. At the time of final plat, the property be assessed for fees in lieu of
parkland dedication based on the anticipated value of the land after
land entitlements have been approved and subdivision improvements
have been installed.
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Commissioner STEWART asked for examples of other homes with 20-foot
setbacks. Ms. Reckert stated that the Cambridge Park development on 38th
Avenue West of Kipling has 20-foot setbacks.
Commissioner SCEZNEY stated that he would not support the motion because he
did not believe the density was compatible with surrounding development.
Commissioner REIN14ART stated that he believed the proposed development was
a close match to adjacent development. He did not believe there would be
consequences such as decreased property values or traffic issues. The developers
have taken great steps to arrive at compatibility.
Commissioner MATTHEWS stated that he would reluctantly support the motion
because the developer is providing a quality product that meets market demands.
He commented that he particularly liked the detached sidewalks. However, he
believed the community was being denied access to the greenbelt due to
bureaucratic regulations and the property owner could not be punished for that.
Commissioner DWYER stated that he would support the motion because he
believed the property value is similar to the McLaughlin's subdivision and worth
more than properties to the south. He expressed concern that the builder is
basically creating two classes within the community (perimeter properties versus
center properties). He was concerned that the center properties could turn into
rentals in the future.
Commissioner CHILVERS stated that he would support the motion. While he
didn't agree with every detail, he could find nothing that would support denial of
the application.
Commissioner STEWART stated that while she had issues with density,
particularly in the center of the development, she would reluctantly support the
motion.
The motion passed 6-1 with Commissioner SCEZNEY voting no and
Commissioner TIMMS absent.
8. OTHER ITEMS
There were no other items to come before the Commission.
9. ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Commissioner STEWART and seconded by Commissioner
D to adjourn the meeting at 9:20 p.m.
Anne Brinkman, Chair Ann Lazzeri, Secretary' Planning Commission 8 -
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