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MINUTES
February 22, 1973
The one hundred and ninety third regular meeting of the Wheat Ridge
City Council was called to order at 7 35 p.m. by Mayor pro tem Ray
C. Pepe at 7390 West 38 Avenue.
Other Aldermen present were Dr Paul Abramson, Jack Bramble, Joseph
Donaldson, Robert Howard and Calvin Hulsey
Also present were
James Malone, City
citizens
City Clerk Louise F. Turner, City Treasurer
Attorney Maurice Fox, staff personnel and interested
Citizen Comments were made by
City Attorn~a~~ice Fox who called upon ~ Turner of
Adolph Coors Company to present a lease agreement between Coors and
the City of Wheat Ridge.
Mr. Turner stated the agreement covered 122 acres between
Kipling and Youngfield for Clear Creek Greenbelt Trail development,
and included a 20 acre lake for boating and fishing, and expressed
the fact that Coors favors a greenbelt.
Alderman Hulsey commended Coors for its willingness to use land in
this waV and made the following Motion "I move that the Coors lease
as presented be accepted and the Mayor be authorized to sign the lease "
Motion was seconded by Alderman Donaldson and passed 5-0.
Geo~~_.Fentress, State Representative, engineer and geologist who said
he had been a proponent of the Flood Plain Ordinance and wise use of
the flood plain He had also worked for recreational trails He
said he hoped this was a long term lease so that the City wouldn't
put money into it, and then have it wiped out by a termination of the
lease He added the following
1 That one day a 200 year flood would wipe out the Coors
plant
2. That he was in favor of cooperation between state and
local governments and corporations
3 That he had supported Wheat Ridge incorporation as pre-
ferable to a joint incorporation of Wheat Ridge and Lakewood.
4 That Wheat Ridge would be wise to consider the junior
high building as a City Hall site because a city hall, if built on the
proposed city hall site, would, too, be washed away in a flood.
5. That even though city politics are non-partisan, he
hoped a Republican would be chosen to replace Mr. Bramble.
~g~ro tem Pepe stated that the City intended to work with the school
district and that a letter of intent had been written.
Darrell Skelton of 4380 Harlan, Chairman of the State Recreational Trails
Commission--whOlcommended Coors and Wheat Ridge regarding the lease,
commended Representative Fentress for his being responsible for state
trail legislation and explained how the Wheat Ridge Greenbelt Trail
would fit into the overall state trail system.
A 1-?_Beer package license for King Soopers at 3400 Youngfield came up
for renewal. Manager Donald Bergh of 8221 Upham Court was present
Motion by Alderman Donaldson "I'd like to move for the approval of the
renewal of a 3.2 package license for King Soopers at 3400 Youngfield "
Motion was seconded by Alderman Howard and passed 6-0.
A Preliminary Hearing for a 3-way liquor license for Art Knief dba
Como's at 9110 West 44 Avenue was held. Mr. Knief and Attorney Michael
Villano who represented him were present.
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Motion by Alderman Abramson "I move that a preliminary neighborhood
be set for Como's at 9110 West 44 Avenue at a one mile radius from
the outlet which can be increased or lessened according to evidence
presented at the hearing, and that the date for the hearing be
April 12, 1973" Motion was seconded by Alderman Howard and passed 5-0.
Motion by Alderman Abramson "I move that t~ appointment to fill the
Council vacancy be tabled until the 15th of March 1973 for further study."
Motion was seconded by Alderman Donaldson.
Alder~an_~oward said this would leave the Council without a permanent
member for tWO to three weeks in March He said the Council had had
interviews, and that at the conclusion of a discussion following the
interviews, the Council had "pretty much" made a decision and he saw
no reason to table it. Mavo}'~uem__~ll~ agreed.
Question was called and Motion passed 3-2. Alderman Bramble abstained
because he had intentionally not attended the interviews, and Aldermen
Howard and Pepe voted "nay."
Attorney_Fox stated in answer to a question by Alderman Bramble that
no time limit for filling the vacancy is given in the Statutes. He
stated in answer to Alderman Pep~ that no new applications should be
considered because the notice in the paper had given the 19th of Feb-
ruary 1973 as the time limit to make applications
Extension of insurance from Capitol Life Insurance Comp~ was presented
by Walter Johnson and considered by Council
Motion by
ment with
coverage "
Alderman Howard "I move that we continue our current arrange-
Capitol Life on life and accident^al death and dismemberment
Motion was seconded by Alderman Donaldson and passed 5-0.
Ordinance No 124 pertaining to an alley vacation (Case WV-72-05) was
brought up for second consideration and read.
~obe}'~ Barr of the Planning Department stated
1 That the Chief of Police, the Public Works Department,
the Planning Commission and the Planning Department were not in favor
of the vacation.
2. That the Public Service Company and Mountain Bell felt
the vacation would be alright provided an easement was retained.
3. That questions had been raised regarding the additional
units
4 That a question had been raised as to the possibility
that this might not be an alley, however, it had been found to be recorded
in the plat book as an alley
5 That a drainage plan had been filed which wruld cause the
developer to install paving to Fenton Street with the low part or a dip
in the paving located lengthwise in the middle to handle the water.
5. That the water from north of 28 Avenue is collected north
of 28 Avenue and the dip would handle the water from that point south to
the dip, it would drain to Fenton and would handle a 2 year run-off
7. That the traffic engineer had opposed the use of a 10 foot
easement for egress from and ingress to a 20 foot area for parking spaces
8. That all requirements of the Code were met at the time
the permit was granted
9 If the alley is vacated and half of the property goes to
the property on the north and half to the south, a hardship might be
caused, causing an "on street" parking problem.
10 That the builder has requested a variance to overbuild
Aldarman Howard askad if tha racommandation was that Council not vacata
the proposed area and allow the owner (builder) to pave a public area,
going beyond his limits to Fenton Street. Mr_~___8_arr answered "Yes"
Alderman Abramson asked if building was often allowed when an alley provides
the p-ci-rk1ng:--Mr Barr stated that a public ROW can be used for parking.
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Alql?.!manBbramson also asked whV a two vear figure was being used
regarding drainage when in the past it had been ten years Mr. Barr
stated the drainage criteria manual uses two vears for residential
property and ten years for industrial
Alderman Donaldson asked if the alley would go through to Eaton and
~Barr-5aid 50 feet of the alley to the east would not be paved
Comments were made by
M~__Bonn~~~oma of 2859 Bray Street who stated
1. The grade is nearly 45 .
2 The area is a cloudburst area, and the dip will not
adequately carry the water, and
3. That she was in favor of the vacation so the people
below would be protected
4. That the variance sign says they want 15 units, and
she asked why a variance is coming up now when the building is already
buil t.
Alderman Abramson stated the vacation alone won't solve drainage problems
and that there was a question as to whether half the alley space would
be sufficient
~ity Attorn~y Fox, in answer to Alderma~ How~rd stated it was not necessary
to have all the property owners involved in requesting a vacation
Warren Chambers owner and builder of the apartments in question stated
1 That he was not aware of the first hearing
2 There there was considerable drop and had always been
a drainage problem.
3. That there were two additional lots (Not his) which
would be built on.
4. That dirt from the excavation had, during bad weather
washed mud down on one lot below to the south.
5. That he had a building permit and wanted to correct the
drainage problem
5. That this was his first project.
7 That his permit was for 13 units and one recreation room,
and he was 320 feet short for a fourteenth unit, and that he had gone
ahead with plans for the recreation room with the intention of asking
for a variance
8 That the applicant for the vacation owned property on
both sides of the alleyway, and intended to combine these for an apartment
development. This point, however, was considered heresay by City Attorney Fox
9. 2 5 parking spaces per unit were required by his present
permit, and if the alley were vacated he would be in violation of the
building permit.
Maxine Parker of 5665 West 27 Avenue who stated
1. The project was behind Her home
2 That Mr Chambers had created a mess.
3 That the units are undesirable from the standpoint of
no back entrance on the south where the parking was.
4. That Mr. Chambers is not guilty, but the person who issued
the permit is guilty
5 That a simple solution existed, and that was for Mr Chambers
to buy the property owned by the applicant, Mr. Henckel, and use it for
parking on 28 Avenue
Alg~rman Howa~E stated he would like to table this for study for two or
three weeks. He requested a study session with the Building, Planning snd
Public Works Departments and made the following Motion "I move we table
action on Ordinance No. 124 until March 8, 1973" Motion was seconnded bV
Alderman Donaldson and passed 6-0.
Or~}~~nce ~ 125 correcting a legal description in Ordinance No. 120
was brought up for second consideration and read.
M[]_t_~on by Alderman Abramson "I move that Ordinance No
on second reading and be ordered published and posted."
by Alderman Hulsey and passed 5-0
125 be adopted
Motion was seconded
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Ordinance No 126 amending Ordinances No 9B and 10B was brought up
for-second consideration and read.
Alderman Abramson stated Sections 3 and 4 had been "slipped in" to
an Ordinance with something that was wanted, that those sections should
not be approved Those sections involved adding the word "to a substantial
degree" to portions of the Flood Plain Law which prohibits building when
damage would be caused to others. Alderman Abramson said he had seen
one instance where a pond had been removed from the flood plain with
significant effect and it had been because ~is proposed type of wording
was in the law at the time giving the opening for conflicting reports
from engineers debating the matter.
Ci__i~LAttorn~~_Fox stated the law needed the proposed wording to allow
flexibility,that to leave it out so that the law restricted building
which might damage others who were already there was an old concept
that would not be backed by the Courts.
Geor~_entr~~ speaking as an engineer and geologi~t~t~g proposed wording
would allow an engineer to argue any case either way depending on what
his client desired, and that he himself preferred to see a flood plain
law that has teeth and also that restrictions placed by a similar law
in Adams County had been upheld by the courts as valid.
John Opie of the Board of Adjustment said flood plain cases, known to be
difficult and time consuming had been given to the Board of Adjustment,
and that the Board had asked to be provided with professional advice
He also stated that he favored keeping it clear cut and as simple as
possible rather than opening it up to ambiguous wording.
Motion by Alderman Abramson 1'1 move that Sections 3 and 4 be stricken."
Motion was seconded by Alderman Hulsey and died in a tie 3-3 vote.
Aldermen Bramble, Donaldson and Pepe voted "nay."
Motion by Alderman Howard "I move that Ordinance No 125 as introduced
by Alderman Donaldson be adopted on second reading and be ordered published
and posted." Motion was seconded by Alderman Donaldson
In answer to a question from Alderman Hulsev, Attorney Fox said a tied
vote would result in killing the Ordinance Question was called and
Motion passed 5-1 Alderman Abramson voted "nay."
Mayor pro tem Pe~ announced that the coming meeting would be a study
session, rather than a regular meeting
Alderman Bramble stated this was his last meeting.
been an enjoyable experience and thanked the other
saying he had appreciated knowing and working with
He said it had
members of Council,
them
Other Aldermen and also citizen H.J. Husted expressed regret at Alderman
Bramble's leaving and said he would be missed.
C~tizen Dora Pecoli said she was a new resident in Ward III and asked
that the Council seriously consider appointing a woman to fill the vacancy.
Meeting was adjourned at 10 10 P m.
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